Overwatch | The Doomfist PROBLEM + How Roadhog Could Fix It!

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Today we go over why Doomfist is such a big problem whilst also talking about how new Roadhog might be about to solve it.
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Readers Comments (34)

  1. Well, doomfist take skill to play?
    What’s next? Genji needs another nerf?

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  2. Cough cough counter doom with roadhog mcree bridgete sombra pharah orisa reaper ana(if you land sleeps) mei torb sym.Doom counters lots but gets countered by lots.

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  3. On my level (plat) i can counter doom pretty good with roadhog. When he jumps in hock him and he dies or has to fall back. Ok maybe the plat dooms are all bad, but arent the gm hogs better too then?

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  4. theres so many counters to him in the game. this community is just trash

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  5. I love Chipsa, but the shit he said half a year ago was so wrong. Turning Doomfist into an off-tank is just…. no. Doomfist was always supposed to be an assassin, by design all his abilities have high burst and were made to work in combo with each other.

    I think the Main Tank and CC problem would be better fixed by creating almost a weight class system, whereby tanks would have more CC immunity than squishies. Make Tanks behave like they're heavier. Because this CC problem isn't just a Doomfist thing, it's having Doomfist along with all these other heroes that also have CC. Then again, Orisa is a hero with a CC immunity ability and pairs well with Hog, and does well against Doom so… Just make Hog and Orisa less trash

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  6. Road hog can act as a win condition, cause if he keeps soaking up damage he heals for ult. Where triple dps are multiple win conditions (mei ice block, reaper shift, Moria fade) can overwhelm an uncoordinated team and just play for ults.

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  7. More cc GREAT IDEA, hope there's a better way to go

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  8. A Zen will never scare doomfist because a Zen shouldn't be alive that entire game lol

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  9. I hope this game changes. Lack of content and lazyness is killing It. Over a year away from overwatch and didnt see a single change

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  10. Soooo sick of people who only play meta crying that a hero is op when it keeps them in check. Df is far from immortal and if he is cleaning you up maybe dont run deathball straight into it? There are 4 or 5 heros in this game that his kit just can't handle. Stop jamming meta pics and swap…

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  11. I think it's just the matchup unfamiliarity. We aren't used to playing against doomfist because he's never been a big pick until now.

    He's good against Goats, and that's why he's popular. I don't think he's in need of a nerf because we just need time to understand how the doomfist meta works. And roadhog buffs are around the corner, so it'll make it hard to DF to play.

    So we should wait, because doomfist only shines in those niche moments that he needs to brawl against tanks. But that's only cause goats is popular rn.

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  12. Total game rework idea: the melee button doubles as a melee counter. Doomfist is a fighting game character in an FPS? Awesome! Nobody has block? What the hell? How good they are at blocking could even be one more part of their kit (and one more dial to tune for balance's sake). Maybe only certain heroes like Rein or Winston could block a rocket punch,  and maybe tracer couldn't block anything. Maybe Rein could block Genji's dash (with his hammer), but Winston couldn't. And Genji could have a passive that lets him deal damage while blocking (using his swords).

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  13. Stop listening to fucking Seagull.

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  14. Doomfist does not need a rework he needs to be toned down a bit. He'll still be extremely effective in alternative metas still, but his one shot ability is just way too op. His whole kit is cc based.
    Sure you can get one shot by a sniper and thats understandable and all, but why does he wield the ability to completely oneshot someone ?(especially squishies) and you cant do ANYTHING about it unless youre an orisa because of all the stuns he gives out. I would rather the dps be more oppresive with a soldier, mccree, etc than get constantly oppressed by an overly aggresive doomfist.

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  15. Really? We don't want Doomfist to be a trash pick by complaining? That's funny because that's exactly what your stupid channel did to Mercy. Only reason I watch your channel is because I want to suck Mysca's Swedish meatball.

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  16. Reaper main here… Doomfist is easy.

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  17. The DPS I play the most are Junk, Torb, Sombra, and Reaper. I'll play McCree or Soldier against a Pharah on some maps but I usually stick to those 4. all 4 of them have some strengths that help them against Doom with Junkrat being the hardest one for me to play against him as. As for tanks, I play Orisa, Winston, and Roadhog the most, but I'll switch to Rein if we really need a shield or if a Brigitte is giving me problems. (against Brigs, just full hammer man, either you die or she dies). As for supports I play mostly Moira with some Brig and Zen. The moira can most of the time fade away from his attacks so he doesn't get the shields leaving him somewhat more vulnerable than he usually is.

    For the most part the characters I play are some of the better heroes against Doom. Still at times I feel like it's just an even fight instead of an advantage.

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  18. I think the only "nerf" doomfist needs is reducing the max damage of his slam to 100. This way a good doom can still max slam and shoot twice to kill a 200hp target if they're perfect with their aim but it's a bit harder. At most add another second to all 3 cooldowns.

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  19. I've been saying for a while now that all the tanks need some level of resistance to being moved around by CC. Big heavy things like Rein in his power armor or D.Va in her mek just shouldn't get knocked around as much. I'd say somewhere between 30-50% distance reduction would be ideal, across the board.

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  20. I honestly DONT think he’s nearly as bad as Brig. Doom’s annoying, but at least he doesn’t counter every hero in the game.

    Brig does, she also increases her team’s survivability, has CC, decent Dps etc etc.

    Comparatively, she’s 100x worse. And her being in the game makes Doomfist played more, cause he deals with her well.

    So really, just deal with Brig first in terms of balance

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  21. I just wish the overwatch forums weren't the only barometer that people take seriously. If you complain about brig or goats, per se, you're met with harpy cries of "J u S t p l A y A r o U N d i T" but when something that isn't a support becomes meta people want to nerf it immediately. The funny thing here is that, the special class of things can't complain about, have very few things that effectively counter it.; whereas the two minute hates are for characters that have plenty of counter play. Listen, I don't like being one shot by DM or hanzo or widow or being hacked by sombra; but if you're losing to these things, it probably because your team isn't coordinated enough to deal with them. That's your problem, not blizzards.

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  22. PLEASE NERF ALL THE CC IN THIS GAME

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  23. Main Doomfist problem is that he should not exist in the game in the first place 😉

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  24. I don't want to see this deathball meta any longer. I'm sick of seeing 3-4 tanks and 2-3 supports. How about switching to Sombra to counter Doomfist, because she utterly shuts him down. Ah, but that requires you switch off tank. There are counters to every hero in the game, but you have to switch.

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  25. I enjoyed the commentary, but the gameplay gave me anxiety haha

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  26. The fundamental problem with Doomfist (and Brigitte in the DPS slot) is that melee goes through barriers and sustained tanking is entirely barrier based in this game. To fix them, make melee abilities and charges stopped by barriers.

    The fundamental problem with Roadhog is that he never really tanked. He can pull one person out of position, but this doesn't effectively create space the way dive tanks do. He has no damage mitigation abilities. By either definition of tanking he doesn't.

    To fix Hog, admit he's a DPS. Drop his health to 300 and rework him with that in mind. I'd take the stun off of hook and give it a disarm (to prevent hooking reaper from being suicide but allow things like Iceblock, Blink, and Wraithform to be used to get out, making it feel less cheap). Damage would go back up to where it used to be, but fire rate would stay fast and clip size would go up 1 more to fit the DPS role. I'd also replace Take a Breather with another hook that roots the victim but doesn't pull them. The pull hook would put the root hook on cooldown for say 1 second so they couldn't combo and the root hook would put the pull hook on cooldown for its duration, which would probably also be 1 second, but could maybe be as much as 1.5.

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  27. I don’t get why people get mad over doomfist one shooting need I remind i Hanzo and widowmaker can one shot u from any range

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  28. Bro do u have any idea how many counters he has to him he’s as big as a bus abilities are super buggy and if u mess up one ability ur DEAD 💀

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  29. Here's how to fight doom
    Pick a sombra you fucking scrubs

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  30. The meta is countered by doom but doom's counters are not meta. Buff his counters like roadhog, who is getting buffed, and buff orsias fortify. With that you have the tank backbone and pick mobile supports. The dps could also be teched in like tracer, mei, 76, reaper, mccree, torb especially when he is released which is why i think doom wasn't nerfed in a reactive manner as blizz usually do. If blizz wants to experiment they could try messing with zarya and change her bubbles to have a lower cooldown but with less health and with a lower charge rate since bubbles stop CC. That last one is a crackpot idea though.

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  31. I find Doomfist so hard to play. I only use him in Quickplay and usually feel like I'm feeding. I think he deserves to be powerful considering how much is required to play him.

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